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Bitcoin is Fully Centralised by the Economic Nodes - Neo Central Banking

By showing you this, I'm not saying that bitcoin's inherent centralisation is a good or a bad thing. I'm pointing at it so that we can all make better investment decisions, being closer to actuality. 

And don't imagine I mean big block miners are centralisation. That is just a trope of developers who have no understanding of the world outside their cells.

I'm telling you this so that you become a more fecund investor defending your household from society. I do not care about who is right or wrong, ideologically. I care about what actually happened because then I can choose accurately and make a better forecast.

What the title is saying is: nothing happens in bitcoin until the 'economic nodes' have decided who is going to win. 

Just like with central banking. Same mechanism. Same controllers. Not technology. 

These nodes not being machines but political actors. Through actions where software changes are used merely to reinforce the command decisions already made. Just like central banking for the past 3 centuries. 

Yes, the economic nodes also use machines to communicate with the network. But their major function is to act 'politically' as part of an oligarchy making the actual decisions. 

All nodes using the blockchain to register final settlement is a theatre used to masquerade as fairness through code is law - no human can interfere, code rules by maths we are told. You are censorship resistant from banks and the state so we are led to believe. It's true only in that it's a mathematical pantomime which appears legitimate which happens after the main event - where the decision that matters - who wins, has already taken place. 

It's still a masquerade. Power is in the same old hands. You have been fooled if you believe that miners make any decisions except to verify digital signatures to make it appear like something fair has happened.

So un-fool yourselves quickly and be praised by your household, and have them honour you after you are gone. Miners always cave in to the command of the oligarchy eventually. The must. Else face bankruptcy. 

All economic nodes are user nodes (they run full validation), but only a tiny fraction of user nodes are economic nodes.
In a true crisis of consensus, it is the economic nodes — not the thousands of ideological user nodes — that determine which chain survives as “bitcoin.”

Who Are the Economic Nodes?

'Businesses' and potentially the state, with the ultimate power to make things happen with bitcoin. Much like monopoly corporations could be said to be to some extent an arm of the state - they have the power to set the price of everything, thus who the miners must always follow.
  • exchanges
  • wallets
  • payment processors
  • merchants
  • custodians etc 

Who Are the User Nodes?

“My node, my rules.” Validates for ideological or technical reasons  

Nodes which run the same software as economic nodes, do not create blocks, so do not secure the network and do nothing at all relevant (all ~15,000 of them) except use electricity. Certainly they decide consensus on nothing, except an illusion they are saving the world. 

What use is verification if the economic nodes have already decided? Anyone running these nodes is doing it for ideological reasons alone, fantasising about the end of banks and government. And resistance to their censorship an age old pathology. We see it also with the resistance to Digital ID and CBDC's. I'm not a fan of these, I'm simply pointing at them to make it clear that a powerful narrative will easily hypnotise you into bankruptcy.  and the death of your household.

"don't trust, verify" is their mantra - these people will destroy their own households.

Who Are the Miner Nodes?

 “Our node, everyone else’s money.” Validates for business reasons and decides which coins have economic value

Nodes whose role is to reinforce the fiat power the economic nodes have already wielded with a show which makes it appear the tech is securing your money. Each node is a $100 million data centres, spending huge sums on electricity creating blocks for the reward/subsidy and some fees (15-20 nodes total with only about 4 actually creating blocks(securing the network) at any one time)

Some incell developers say this is bad because it is "centralised". Well 1) it is still not centralised and 2) for cryin' out loud, the economic nodes did that already, so why the sudden concern? Besides which decentralisation in bitcoin technically is just a tool dividing even just 2 mining nodes into a secure competition battle, its not an end in itself.

I hear you - Satoshi has tried to change this recently but failed badly in the high courts, once again beaten by the user nodes, who always decide. He did not have the wisdom to recognise that this paradigm is not limited to bitcoin but the whole of the world where an oligarchy selected by the people, decides.

More detail from Grok below

"Is a user node the same thing as an economic node?"

No — a “user node” and an “economic node” are not the same thing, although there is a large overlap in practice. The distinction becomes extremely important in contentious situations like a UASF or a chain split.
Term
Who runs it?
What power does it actually have?
Examples
User node
Any individual or organization that runs a full Bitcoin node (Bitcoin Core, Knots, etc.)
Validates blocks & transactions according to its own rules Can refuse to follow the longest chain if it violates its policy (e.g., inflation >21 M, confiscation, etc.) Does not directly control where money is accepted in the real world
You, me, a hobbyist in his basement, a university research lab, a privacy activist running a node on a Raspberry Pi
not an exchange, wallet provider, or merchant with millions of users
Economic node
The relatively small set of entities that the rest of the world depends on to convert bitcoin into fiat, goods, services, or other cryptos
Decides which chain is called “BTC” on price tickers Decides which coins users can withdraw or deposit Decides which chain merchants and payment processors will accept Their policy effectively defines “the real Bitcoin” for 90–99 % of the monetary value
Major exchanges (Coinbase, Binance, Kraken, Bitstamp, etc.) Large custodians (Fidelity, Grayscale, BitGo) Popular wallets with millions of users (Blockchain.com, Exodus, Electrum servers) Payment processors (BitPay, Coinbase Commerce) Stablecoin issuers that peg to “BTC”
Why the distinction matters in practice
  1. In normal times
    The two sets are aligned → nobody notices the difference.
  2. In a serious UASF or chain-split scenario
    • 100,000 user nodes can activate a UASF and still lose → the chain they support dies.
    • 5–10 economic nodes (exchanges + big wallets) can activate a UASF and win → their chain becomes the one everyone calls Bitcoin, even if it has 1 % of the original hashpower.
    → This is exactly what happened in 2017 with SegWit: thousands of user nodes ran BIP148, but the decisive factor was that major exchanges and wallets publicly committed to enforce the UASF rules if miners didn’t signal. Miners capitulated within days.
  3. Real-world numbers (rough estimates, 2024–2025)
    • ~17,000–18,000 reachable Bitcoin full nodes worldwide (user nodes).
    • <50 entities control >95 % of liquid BTC trading volume and custody (economic nodes).
      → In a governance fight, the second group wins almost every time.
Short definitions you can use
  • User node → “My node, my rules.” Validates for ideological or technical reasons.
  • Economic node → “Our node, everyone else’s money.” Validates for business reasons and decides which coins have economic value.
So:
All economic nodes are user nodes (they run full validation),
but only a tiny fraction of user nodes are economic nodes.

In a true crisis of consensus, it is the economic nodes — not the thousands of ideological user nodes — that determine which chain survives as “Bitcoin.”

What is a user activated soft fork?

A User-Activated Soft Fork (UASF) is a mechanism in Bitcoin (and some other cryptocurrencies) where a backward-compatible protocol upgrade (a soft fork) is enforced not by miners, but by users—specifically, by the economic nodes (wallets, merchants, exchanges, and full nodes run by individuals and businesses).Key Characteristics of a UASF
  1. It’s a soft fork
    • The new rules are a stricter subset of the old rules, so old nodes can still validate blocks under the new rules (they just won’t enforce the extra restrictions).
    • This makes it backward-compatible in the sense that non-upgraded nodes won’t immediately reject the chain.
  2. Activation is triggered by users, not miners
    • A specific date/time (a "flag day") is hardcoded into the client software.
    • On that date, upgraded nodes begin rejecting any block that does not signal support for the new rules (usually via a specific bit in the block header, e.g., bit 1).
    • Even if miners don’t upgrade or don’t signal, users will follow the chain that complies with the new rules.
  3. Economic majority matters
    • The success of a UASF depends on a significant portion of the Bitcoin economy (exchanges, wallets, payment processors, merchants) running the UASF client.
    • If the economic majority rejects non-compliant blocks, miners are economically forced to follow or risk mining blocks that the economy won’t accept (orphan risk).
Most Famous Example: BIP 148 (2017)
  • What it was: A UASF to activate SegWit (BIP 141).
  • Flag day: August 1, 2017 (block height 477,120 onward).
  • Rule: Any block mined after July 31, 2017, that did not signal support for SegWit (bit 1 set) would be rejected by BIP 148 nodes.
  • Outcome:
    • Created enormous tension because a large portion of miners opposed or delayed SegWit.
    • Exchanges and many companies announced support for BIP 148.
    • To avoid a chain split, miners and the community eventually compromised with BIP 91 (a miner-activated rule that forced SegWit signaling earlier), and SegWit activated safely on August 24, 2017 via BIP 141 (lock-in via miner signaling).
    • BIP 148 itself never fully activated because the compromise made it unnecessary, but it proved the concept: users can force miners’ hands.
UASF vs. Traditional Miner-Activated Soft Fork (MASF)
Feature
MASF (e.g., BIP 34, BIP 66)
UASF (e.g., BIP 148)
Who enforces the rule?
Miners (95% hashpower threshold)
Users (economic nodes)
Activation trigger
Miner signaling over a window
Fixed date/time ("flag day")
Risk of chain split
Lower (needs miner consensus)
Higher (if miners resist)
Political message
Miners have final say
Users/economic majority have final say
Why UASFs Are Controversial
  • Pros:
    • Reasserts that miners are service providers, not rulers of the protocol.
    • Gives power back to users and the broader economy.
  • Cons:
    • High risk of a prolonged chain split if miners refuse to follow.
    • Can be seen as coercive or reckless.
SummaryA User-Activated Soft Fork (UASF) is a soft fork where users (via full nodes, wallets, and economic actors) enforce new rules on a predetermined date, regardless of miner support. It is a way for the Bitcoin user community to override miner resistance and has been used (or threatened) as a governance tool, with BIP 148 in 2017 being the most prominent real-world example.

Yes, and these economic nodes do not create blocks nor maintain the blockchain?
Exactly — that's the crucial point that makes a UASF so powerful (and controversial). Economic nodes (wallets, exchanges, merchants, payment processors, and individual full nodes) do not:
  • Mine blocks
  • Produce new blocks
  • Directly contribute hashpower
  • Maintain the blockchain ledger by themselves
Yet they do decide which chain has economic value. Here’s why that matters in a UASF. When a UASF flag day arrives, These economic nodes start rejecting any block (and the entire chain continuing from it) that doesn’t follow the new rules. Even if those blocks are produced by 100% of the current miners.
If major exchanges, wallets like Coinbase, BitPay, or hardware wallets like Ledger/Trezor enforce the UASF rules, then coins on the non-UASF chain become unsellable, unspendable, or worthless in practice — even if that chain has all the hashpower.
Miners are then faced with a brutal choice:
  • Keep mining the “old rules” chain → their blocks get orphaned by the economy → they earn zero revenue (because no one accepts their coins).
  • Switch to mining the UASF chain → they follow the users’ rules and get paid.
This is why people say:
“Miners follow the chain with the most economic value, not the one with the most hashpower in the long run.”
The 2017 BIP 148 UASF threat worked because enough economic nodes (exchanges, wallets, businesses) publicly committed to enforcing it. Miners backed down first to avoid mining worthless blocks.
In short: Economic nodes don’t create blocks or secure the chain with proof-of-work, but they decide which blocks have economic relevanceA UASF is the mechanism that turns that economic power into protocol enforcement.

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