That is to say, do we still need to run a tribal hierarchy to rise to the great new heights which Mr. Musk is notably striving for in spite of the unintended consequences of his theories?
@grok define society and all its parts
Allow me to make myself abundantly clear: this post is asking for people to think, not necessarily to act. So do not take them as a judgement but a positive opportunity to visualise the future for our descendants.
To bring the incoherence on all sides to an end or at least confess to it happening.
Then to ask if society is behind it all. Or at least its incoherence is an effect of something deeper which is scaring people and making them too anxious to resolve properly.
So, do we still need leaders like the apes do to govern the tribe, with rewards for those who signal obedience to authority and punishment for those who do not?
Apes need leaders and a hierarchy because without them any slight hiccup puts the tribe in serious jeopardy. The tribe could be wiped out by even a temporary shortage of food.
I don't mean to say that society must be abolished nor that I want it to happen. But if we observe it authentically and find out it is holding us back, then why not?
By abolition I mean at least to rid ourselves of the hierarchy. Do we need leadership any more and if so, pray tell me why exactly? I have not once been given a straight answer on this question. No one wants to discuss it as if we're terrified of the consequences.
For example, the economy can produce ten thousand times as much output in wealth, per unit hour of labour and capital input, than it could in Roman times. A spectacular advance.
The point is there is never going to be a time in the future where we run out of anything we need to survive. Existential threat is only possible from stray asteroids or the hierarchy we insist on obeying doing it on purpose.
Was it the hierarchy that made this possible. Would we have done it all without a hierarchy? Who can say, we've never tried to look into it.
I put it to you that the only real threats to humanity any more are
- all of us insist on being obedient instruments of authority - hierarchy. The reason for this is because within a hierarchy, signalling obedience is rewarded, not being obedient is punished. It still works so well because obedience is the best way to climb the political, social and economic ladders. Yet its no longer required to protect the tribe from hard times. The tribe is now the threat because what once was a planned risk is not longer a risk and were left with the price - hierarchy.
- that we have forgotten at a deeper level who we really and and where we really come from. We have a spiritual source, a home, and we're in exile to that home, living in a fallen material world which still believes it needs a hierarchy to keep going. And being so far from home causes deep existential anxiety which we try to get rid of by projecting it onto whichever is the next new crisis it will stick too most easily. No one wants to try and discover where we really come from.
The curious thing is, this memory loss and obedience pathology has been the case for about two thousand years now. No one dares talking about the abolition of society so that we could finally start to climb to new heights. That would 1) not be signalling obedience and 2) means looking inward rather than blaming wealth and power. And if we cannot achieve this, the horrors Mr. Musk is earnestly trying to help us escape will simply follow us into space with the same ferocity.
So I propose looking into 1 and 2 above? To stop paying respect to authority by your obedience to it. And to start becoming compassionate people who do not blame others and look inward to remember where we came from.
Where that will go I have no idea. And it will be the first step humanity has made on its evolutionary journey for ten thousand years.
I heard someone talking about Jesus as he approached Jerusalem and how the jews were rejoicing that he was going to turn over the Romans and the jews would now rule. But was Jesus really coming to turn over society so that the people would finally focus on God. This is how I interpret Jesus' arrival - that society is a false God.
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