It's true, there is no way to penetrate this by asking them if they ever listened to what the man is actually saying - its impenetrable. They have never listened to him and have only listened to what peer pressure is saying alone.
I'm not saying Mr. Robinson is always right, though I do listen to him, have met him and spoken to him and believe him on most topics. In the same way I do with everyone.
The point is that if people respond immediately by spouting the narrative, you know right away they are doing it to be rewarded socially - 'to be seen'.
Peoples principles take a distant second place to their need to climb socially. We saw a lot of this during the pandemic, with masks wearing, social distancing, grassing up friends who refused the vax.
Status + Conformity - Obey to rise